Impending Stoning in Iran

Kamangir: The state-run newspaper Qods reported that a mother of three is sentenced to stoning. Reportedly, the evidence is video tapes of her having sex with another person [Persian].
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p.s. I didn’t even care translating the rest of the piece, but, as our commenter Ahwazi has correctly pointed out, the sex was obviously an act between her and a man and the man got away with 100 lashes.
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A Discussion About stoning, Iranian revolution and cultural relativism

Below is a very important piece that addresses the "useful idiots'", the savvy (savage non-Iranian) Islamists' and in general racist cultural relativists' various amoral arguments:

Pleateau of Iran:

Some of you may have already heard that according to Islamic Republic judiciary spokesman Alireza Jamshidi in Tehran, the stoning of the man, Jafar Kiani, was carried out in a village in Qazvin province (northwestern Iran). This punishment was allegedly for commiting adultery.

As a result of this recent news, someone (a non-Iranian) made the following comment elsewhere. Note: the comment was not directed at me, but I did respond to the commentator. I want to focus on the content and nature of both the comment (not the person) and my response to it since I believe they are sufficiently important to republish them here:

The Comment:

“Again: Would you be outraged if Saddam Hussein was stoned???

Capital punishment whether it’s stoning, hanging, electrocution, or lethal injection is not torture. It may cause pain but that’s not the primary reason capital punishment is enforced. The primary reason is to put to death the criminal. Nice try but the issue is not whether someone values life more than marriage. You can value both. The issues are what is valued in a soceity, what crimes constitutes a capital offense and why?

Laws reflect and punishments for breaking those laws tell you what is valued in a soceity. Why shouldn’t adultery be a capital offense? Is adultery even wrong to you? Try not to name call when you answer the questions. I’m just asking. I don’t think anybody, outside of being a Christian, can give me a sound reason why adultery should not be a capital offense.

My Response:

You have raised some very interesting, but complex points as far as Iran under the ruling Mullahs is concerned.

1. Whether capital punishment, in general, should exist is debatable and I don’t think it is the sole issue here. Personally, I don’t believe in a death verdict/sentence for adultery.

2. Regardless of capital punishment and death sentence (as ultimate verdicts), the process of arriving at such verdict and the method by which the death sentence is carried out are equally important.

Are you aware that stoning prior to mullah rule was not part of the law in Iran? Bear in mind that I’m referring to 3000 year plus history of Iran, not just the Shah’s era. Do you also realize that the act of stoning is often performed by a group of people including children? Stoning is in fact torture which leads to death. It is a slow and painful death/execution. Stones used to hit the person must be of certain shape and size. Using big stones that can lead to instant death are against the Islamic law (sharia) in Iran.

Moreover, the basis for stoning a person is a ritual which is practiced by muslim pilgrims visiting Mecca. It is called “stoning of the Devil/Satan”. During this ritual, pilgrims must personally look for and gather appropriate shape/size stones, bring them back to an appropriate location and begin to throw them at a pretend-to-be devil as an act of denouncing and renouncing the Devil (Satan). However, there are vast differences between stoning a pretend-to-be-devil vs. a real person.

3. The judiciary, legal system and courts, in general, in Mullah ruled Iran are absolutely dysfunctional. Two different people can be sentenced to two different punishments for exactly the same crime depending on how much each one is favored by those in charge of passing the sentence. If stoning for adultery was to be applied across the board, then many of the ruling mullahs and their cohorts should have stoned to death long ago. Not to mention that many of the articles which currently exist in Islamic government constitution are not adhered to or are generally so vague and codified that one can interpret them any way one wants to and is expedient. They are highly subjective. Regardless, stoning, as a form of punishment for a capital offense, is actually mentioned in IR constitution including articles 83, 102 and 104.

4. “what is valued in a soceity, what crimes constitutes a capital offense and why?” Adultery is not valued in Iranian society, but nor is stoning. Stoning is valued and enforced by Mullahs in the society. There lies the difference. However, I don’t dispute that certain groups actually enjoy it such as: Bassij thugs and those who get their kicks out of torture and killing of others. I consider them sadists and mentally unstable i.e. psychotic.

5. How do we define adultery in Mullah ruled Iran? Have you heard of temporary marriage “seegheh”? Under sharia (Islamic law in Iran) with a few words, you can become temporarily married to someone for any period of time. Women often practice it due to economic/financial hardship. Even married women, whose husbands may be unable to provide for them and the family because of drug addiction (Iran has a very high percentage of drug addicts) can be temporarily married in order to feed their family and children. Of course, “seegheh” to me is not only a legalized form of prostitution, but it can also be construed as adultery. Men in current Iran can have 4 wives at the same time. Additionally, men can have up to 12 “seegheh” i.e. concubines. Traditionally, the practice of polygamy and “seegheh” - an arab/muslim practice - are frowned upon by the mainstream in Iran and never existed in Persian society or culture, certainly not prior to Islamic laws being enforced in the society and in people’s personal lives.

In conclusion, I think your reasoning, as far as mullah ruled Iran is concerned is rather simplistic. And, I hope you will find the above informative."

Also below I have selected a few sample of my previous posts regarding the amoral/racist/fascistic cultural relativist argument and their uninformed assertion about the Iranian revolution: This might seem repetitive to those who have been a long time reader of my blog. However, I think they're worth re-posting for my new readers who have shown interest in learning about Iran and the Iranian revolution and how it was hijacked by Khomein's thugs:

"Cultural relativists say Iranian society is Muslim, implying that people choose to live the way they are forced to. It's as if there are no differences in beliefs in Iran, no struggles, no communists, no socialists, and no freedom-lovers.

If so, why have 150,000 people been executed for opposing the Islamic Republic of Iran? If it’s the entire society's culture and religion, why does the Islamic regime need such extensive tools for repression? If it’s people’s beliefs, why does the regime control their private lives - from their sexual activities, to what video they watch, to what music they listen to?

If the entire society is Muslim, why did Zoleykhah Kadkhoda enter a voluntary sexual relationship for which she was buried in a ditch and stoned? If it is people's culture, why did the residents of Bukan revolt against the stoning and save her life? Why are thousands of women rounded up in the streets for “improper” veiling if its their culture and religion? How come, after two decades of terror and brutality, the universities are still not Islamic, according to an official of the regime? Though it's untrue, even if every person living in Iran had reactionary beliefs, it still wouldn’t be acceptable. If everyone believes in the superiority of their race, does that make it okay?

Cultural relativists say that we must respect people's culture and religion, however despicable. This is absurd and calls for the respect of savagery. Yes, human beings are worthy of respect but not all beliefs must be respected. If culture allows a woman to be mutilated and killed to save the family “honor,” it cannot be excused. In the Islamic Republic of Iran, religion rules and has become the mass murderer of people. If religion says that women who disobey should be beaten, that flogging is acceptable, and that women are deficient, it must be condemned and opposed"...more:

http://www.maryamnamazie.com/articles/cultural_relativism_fascism.html

Also Please read "Lost Wisdom" by Abbas Milani to realize that Iran was never run by Islamic laws (Sharia) despite its 1400 years of occupation by Islamist until the Islamic Republic took hold of Iran in the last 29 years.

http://www.amazon.com/Lost-Wisdom-Rethinking-Modernity-Iran/dp/0934211906


For the actual 3500 year history and culture I highly recommend Tom Holland’s “Persian fire : the first world empire and the battle for the West”.

http://www.amazon.com/Persian-Fire-First-Empire-Battle/dp/0385513119/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/103-1368292-5112658?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1173677731&sr=8-1

My plea to leftis liberals: For God's or humanity's sake stop politicizing human sufferings for your own political agenda and expediencey.

You can also read all my posts regarding Persian culture of 3000 plus years and not just the past 28 years:

http://fleetingperusal.blogspot.com/search/label/Persian%20Empire


Must read articles regarding the Iranian revolution:

http://www.democratiya.com/interview.asp?issueid=9

Janet Afary's piece on Iranain nation's struggle for democracy, dating back to 100 years ago:

"Janat Afary and Kevin Anderson give us glimpses into the 100-year old struggle of Iranians to gain democracy and liberty. A long and almost thoroughly researched article but well worth the read. Some highlights:


What went wrong? When reform-minded Iranians discuss this question, the conversation often turns to the 1906-11 Constitutional Revolution, widely seen as a missed opportunity for democratic modernization. This has been especially true in the past couple of years, as its centenary is celebrated by Iranians at home and abroad.


The Constitutional Revolution was the first democratic revolution to take place in the Middle East, and perhaps the most important. The revolution established a freely elected Parliament and a Constitution with civil liberties, severely limited the powers of the shah and promoted the establishment of women's schools and councils. It also set up a state-based judiciary that challenged the traditional authority of the Shiite clerics. As Yann Richard, France's leading Iran specialist, observes in his latest book L'Iran: Naissance d'une république islamique (Birth of an Islamic Republic), from the late eighteenth century through the mid-nineteenth century the Shiite clergy had provided a counterweight to the monarchy.

But with the emergence of two heterodox offshoots of Shiism in the mid-nineteenth century, Babism and Bahaism--both of which challenged social hierarchies, including gender inequality--the clerical establishment drew closer to the state in order to combat these dissident religious movements. When the Constitutional Revolution broke out, some influential clerics sided with the state; one of them, Sheikh Fazlullah Nuri, was executed by the revolutionaries. Yet the leading clerics were by no means united in opposition to the revolution: Quite a few embraced the changes, with some going so far as to endorse Nuri's execution.


As Hamid Dabashi recounts in Iran: A People Interrupted, this "revolution in the very moral fabric of a nation" was, like most later progressive movements in Iran, marked by the participation of its ethnic and religious minorities--Azeris, Armenians, Bahais and Jews. The revolution also saw an unprecedented flowering of Iranian literature. Hoping to build what Dabashi calls "an anti-colonial modernity," the great writer Ali Akbar Dehkhoda launched a campaign in the press against oppressive social customs (especially regarding gender). Socialist ideas from the 1905 Russian Revolution entered the country through Baku and Tbilisi... Much more

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20070716/afary

http://fleetingperusal.blogspot.com/2007/07/iranian-impasse.html

If you want to see what a stoning to death looks like, then click here. But be warned.

Also read, Potkin's reflections on Lenin and the recent stoning in Iran as a mother of three children awaits her scheduled stoning to be carried out by the savage Islamists.

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Religion of Peace!

Daily mail: A stoning pit, in which she will be buried up to her neck, has already been prepared for her.

Amnesty International UK director Kate Allen, launching an "urgent" appeal, said: "To execute anyone by stoning is barbaric and disgraceful, to execute a woman for adultery in this cruel way simply beggars belief.

"It is imperative that Iran's head of judiciary takes immediate steps to stop the shameful stoning of Mokarrameh Ebrahimi while clarifying what has happened to her co-accused Jafar Kiani."


Tehran stopped official stonings in 2002 following international pressure. But judiciary spokesman Alireza

Jamshidi confirmed that Jafar Kiani had been killed on Thursday. "The verdict was implemented because it was definitive," he said.

Under Islamic law a male convict is buried up to the waist with his hands tied behind his back, while a female is usually buried up to her neck. Spectators and officials then carry out the execution by hurling rocks and stones.

The stones are deliberately chosen to be large enough to cause pain, but not big enough to kill the person in just one or two strikes.

Kiani and Ebrahimi were jailed in 1996 and their two children, one aged 11, are believed to live in prison with their mother.

The Iranian women's group Stop Stoning Forever say the couple were living together when they were first detained, with reports suggesting Mokarrameh had been thrown out of the family home by her husband.

Both the man and woman have children from their previous marriages.

Stoning was widely used after the 1979 Islamic revolution propelled hard line clerics into power, but in

2002 they were replaced with other means of punishment. Despite this, human rights groups say a man and a woman were stoned to death in 2006 in north-east Iran, after being convicted of adultery and murdering the woman's husband.

The stoning of Jafa Kiani brings to at least 110 the number of executions - by public hanging - carried in Iran this year.

The death penalty is automatically imposed for murder, rape, armed robbery, blasphemy, serious drug trafficking, repeated sodomy, adultery, prostitution, treason and espionage.

Of the 24 juvenile offenders executed in Iran since 1990, 11 were still children by the time they died. Others were held in prison until their 18th birthday before being hanged.

In May, the European Union criticised Tehran's human rights record and expressed concern about the use of the death penalty in the Islamic state.

Iran says it is acting on the basis of Islamic sharia law.

Last night it emerged that Mokarrameh Ebrahimi has been given a stay of execution while her case is reviewed. However human rights campaigners believe there may be little hope for her.

They point out that her lover was told two weeks ago that his death sentence had been suspended, only for him then to be executed last Thursday.

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More on Recent Stoning in Iran

Kamangir: This is the English translation of a post by Another Viewpoint, regarding the recent stoning in Iran.

The Iranian Judiciary acted very thoughtfully (cunningly) when they stoned him (and not both of them). Obviously, all the human rights and anti-execution organizations will start condemning it. However, their main energy will be concentrated on saving her. Then, the Judiciary can cancel the stoning of the lady and proudly say “See? We are not that bad! We listen to the international concerns, especially about women.” At the same time, they have sent a message to the *layers of the Iranian society who, for any reason, were looking forward to the stoning. The message would be, “We do not listen to anyone. We carry out God’s verdict.” To sum up, a man has been victimized by the power struggle. I do wish stoning is forgotten forever.

* Layer= BASIJI and Hizballah Thugs

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Save Iranian woman from execution by stoning

Amnesty International is making an urgent appeal to prevent the stoning to death of Mokarrameh Ebrahimi, an Iranian woman, following the stoning execution of her co-accused.Jafar Kiana was stoned to death in the village of Aghche-kand, near the town of Takestan, Qazvin province, on Thursday 5 July. There are grave concerns that his partner, Mokarrameh Ebrahimi, will suffer the same fate unless Iran's Head of the Judiciary intervenes immediately.Jafar Kiana and Mokarrameh Ebrahimi were due to be stoned to death on 21 June, but the execution was suspended after a wave of domestic and international pressure on the Iranian government. This included campaigning by the Iran-based Stop Stoning Forever campaign and Amnesty International.

hey couple had spent more than 11 years in prison for having an adulterous relationship. They have two children, who live with their mother in prison.The couple remained under sentence of execution by stoning, but it was believed the risk was not imminent. However, Jafar Kiana's execution has triggered fears that Mokarrameh Ebrahimi's life is in imminent danger.Under Iranian law, execution by stoning is a punishment for adultery by married men and women. The stones used are specifically designed to increase the victim's suffering. It has been reported that only a few members of the public participated in Jafar Kiana's stoning, which was carried out mostly by local governmental and judiciary officials.

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Iraq: Amnesty International appalled by stoning to death of Yezidi girl and subsequent killings

Condemn the brutal stoning to death of Doa (means prayer) - a young girl whose only crime was to fall in love. Please Sign the Petition.

Amnesty International is appalled by the killing of Du’a Khalil Aswad, aged about 17, who was stoned to death on or around 7 April 2007 for a so-called honour crime. A member of Iraq’s Yezidi religious minority from the village of Bahzan in northern Iraq, she was killed by a group of eight or nine men and in the presence of a large crowd in the town of Bashika, near the city of Mosul. Some of her relatives are said to have participated in the killing.

Amnesty International condemns in the strongest terms both the murder of Du’a Khalil Aswad and the subsequent murders of the Yezidi men, and is calling on the Iraqi authorities to take immediate steps to identify and bring to justice, through fair trials and without recourse to the death penalty, the perpetrators of these killings. As well, the organization is calling on the Iraqi authorities to investigate whether law enforcement officials were present but failed to intervene to prevent Du’a Khalil Aswad’s death by stoning, and to take urgent, concrete measures, including through legislative reforms, to protect those at risk of becoming victims of so-called “honour crimes.”
Background
There are frequent reports of "honour crimes" in Iraq - in particular in the predominantly Kurdish north of the country. Most victims of "honour crimes" are women and girls who are considered by their male relatives and others to have shamed the women's families by immoral behaviour. Often grounds for such accusations are flimsy and no more than rumour. "Honour crimes" are most often perpetrated by male members of the woman's family in the belief that such crimes restore their and their family's honour. While the Kurdish authorities introduced legal reforms to address “honour killings” they have, however, failed to investigate and prosecute those responsible for such crimes. Amnesty International has documented its concerns about Iraqi women victims of human rights violations, including “honour crimes”, in a report issued in February 2005 (Iraq: Decades of suffering-Now women deserve better, http://web.amnesty.org/library/Index/ENGMDE140012005?open&of=ENG-IRQ)

From peyekiran
سنگسار يک دختر 17 ساله به نام دعا توسط خانواده و اقوام وی در منطقه بشیقه baashigha در شمال عراق در 7 آوريل 2007.اين دختر نگون بخت که از خانواده ایزيدی ها (معروف به شيطان پرستان) است به خاطر اينکه قصد داشت با يک جوان مسلمان ازدواج کند توسط خانواده و اقوام و همسايگان سنگسار شد.روايت ديگر آن است که دعا عرب ومسلمان بوده و پسر جوان به ايزيدی ها تعلق داشته است. ولی اين مسئله در اصل جنايتی که شده ناثير نمي گذارد و عاملان متعلق به هر گروهی که باشند بايد به مجازات برسند.اين فيلم با گوشی موبايل گرفته شده ولی با ويندوز مديا پلير WMP قابل ديدن است.
قسمت اول
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More Medieval Savagery by the Islamic Republic!

Iran: Magazine Cover, Circa 60's. (two movie stars)


Via Aryamehr: More in regards to the Islamic dresscode - when the Islamists first overtook the country in 1979 they would go around spraying acid on Iranian women's faces and use razor blades on their lips...

In addition to setting these animals loose the regime is also tightening dress-restrictions on Iranian males who are being arrested for wearing short-sleeved shirts and "un-Islamic" hairdo's. Male university students wearing shorts in their own dormitories are also being arrested and fined. Shorts are outlawed in the Islamic Republic as they are seen as un-Islamic.The whole situation is unreal knowing that we are in the 21st century...and knowing that only 28 years ago Iranian women, during the Pahlavi Era, were free to dress AS THEY PLEASED is just mind-boggling to witness what low point these Islamists have taken our country...

It's truly sad that my Iranian grandmother and mother had more social justice and freedom in the 30's,40's,50's, 60's, until 1979 than women have had in the Islamic Republic the 80's,90's and 2007.

Of course the 'veil issue' is the least of Iranian women problems. Women are stoned to death and are forced by their fathers and brothers legally to marry at the age of 9 (they recently raised it to 13) and can't get a divorce and custody of their children.

After Khomeini-Carter-induced pestilence of 1979, the legal age of marriage for women was reduced from 18 years to 9 years old according to newly imposed sharia laws by the medieval mullahs. In other words, pedophilia is legal in the Islamic Republic. As a result, husband killing has been on the rise progressively in Iran and half of the women languishing in jails are these poor women who were forced to marry at a very young age and when they grew up, they killed their molesters and abusers...The apologists and appeasers should be so proud of their women-stoning, women-trafficking, sex-slaving, Acid-throwing, face-cutting, lips-slashing, leg-amputating, tongue-removing, eye-gouging, and child-molesting Islamic Republic. What's even more tragic is that these acts have become the norms and people have been desynthesized by these repeated acts of violence to the point that you hardly ever hear any outrage anymore.

Thank you Mr. Carter and Mr. Brzezinski. The irony is that with all of these restriction in place, prostitution and drug addiction are an epidemic in the Islamic Republic and abject poverty is raging and there is no viable middle class to speak of unlike the late Shah's era when the country saw a thriving middle class emerging rapidly in every corner. Even the farmers and peasants, in remote villages could afford to send their kids abroad (Europe and U.S.) to get a decent education, and later turn against the shah in U.C. Berkeley and other prestigious universities...End rant.



Watch the video of Iranian women demonstrating against compulsory veiling in 1979 here.




All since Khomeini's Revolution of 1979 and imposition of Sharia laws.

This is an opportunity for the Liberals, the Left and the women's rights activists in the West to show the Iranian people where they stand on fundamental issues of freedom and human rights. Do they back Iranian people's legitimate struggle for huma.n rights and democracy, do they back Iranian women's just cause for equal rights? Or do they only come out of their closets for a bit of US bashing?Imagine what a boost it would be for other Iranian women's rights activists, if suddenly the international community displayed a massive show of solidarity for them. Imagine if the international community, instead of debating whether they should give in to the rulers of the Islamic Republic or preparing for a military attack, or begging the Iranian officials for talks...

UPDATE 1: IRAN: 150,000 WOMEN DETAINED FOR BREAKING DRESS CODE

Alan Peters has more on this here.

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Iranian Dissent & American Media Apathy

Why is it that in the hypocritical MSM, we only hear of the Islamic Republic officials being tortured by the CIA but never once we hear anything about systematic tortures, hanging, and stoning of women and political dissidents in Iran. This is what you'll never hear from CNN or NBC, CBS, ABC... Is it because they're not terrorist trainers and jihadists like the so-called diplomats and officials of the IR? Here are some excerpts:

In past few months, the henchmen of Ministry of Intelligence and Security (MOIS) in ghastly ward 209 of Evin Prison have put political prisoners under psychological and physical pressure which has caused them mental and physical disorder.
For months, Messrs Keyvan Ansari, Saeed Masouri, Keyvan Rafii, Abul Fazal Jahandar, Saeed (Kheyrollah) Derakhshandi and Mohammad Ebrahimi spent time in the same ward. They have protested and went on a hunger strike over poor conditions within the prison. However, the prison’s officials are indifferent to their demands and in some cases have received involuntary tranquilizer injections or have been beaten by the guards to suppress their protests.
In the second week of April, upon Mr. Saeed Derakhshandi protest against his detention in ward 209, the prison officials had severely beaten him. Mr. Derakhshandi’s back as well as his left arm have been seriously injured as a result of beatings. The prison guards have refused to treat him.

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Religion of Peace!

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The Islamic Republic of Stoning, Executions, and Flogging

"A video from the Islamic republic of Iran, show floggings and execution of prisoners."



Warning: This video is definitely not for anyone under 18 and not for the squeamish. It is very disturbing and inappropriate for some viewers.


This is the kind of government the Liberals want to legitimize by negotiationg and giving Security Guarantees, the so-called "Grand Bargain"....

Many thanks to Plateau, a great blog, BTW.

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